09 December 2006

Intelligent Design: Should It Be Taught?

Note: I am so pissed off right now, not because of Intelligent design but because of Blogger. I wrote one of the longest posts I have ever written (with thorough research and everything) and what does Blogger do? It completely fucks up the whole post and deletes half of it. All that time... lost. Now I have to write this post again... What motivation do I have now? How could I possibly match the quality of the deleted post? Shitty Blogger...

But anyway, to the post:

Despite being a man of science, I am very tolerant of religion. I respect what religion can do to peoples' lives and the purpose it brings. However, there are many aspects of religion too far-fetched to ignore and one of these is Intelligent Design.

There is a teacher in my school who is one of those crazy religious nutcases. Except he is armed with science and has been brainwashing all the students with tripe about Intelligent Design with scientific justifications for years.

It began with Christian Union, he would preach every week to an average audience of three about religion and science and how they are linked. He once declared that anyone was allowed to argue against his beliefs on Intelligent Design. My and my friends decided one day to ask him "How can you believe in Intelligent Design with the evidence around you?"

We were bored at the time and he had practically invited us to have an argument with him (when would we get another opportunity to do that with a teacher?). Before we knew it we were stuck in Christian Union listening to an hour lecture on how religion explains science or some other shit along those lines.

At first I was enticed by the idea of intelligent design, even though I still believed in evolution no matter what it all seemed to make sense. But later, when some thought was applied, it was a load of bullshit.

An example of such bullshit was: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

Apparently this refers to the Big Bang theory. It seems to make sense, after all, the Big Bang theory explains that the Universe was created and that time, space, everything was created in that one moment and began existing. Is that not what the first line of Genesis says? That God created everything (the Heavens and the Earth) at once?

Of course anything can interpreted as anything. The Bible was created by the Vatican (who picked and chose Gospels which benefited the them) and the Big Bang theory is just a theory and subject to change. If the Big Bang theory was disproved what then? New interpretations would be found no doubt.

But anyway that was just one example. Most of you are no doubt thinking, you stick to your beliefs I stick to mine. This post wasn't written to criticise Religious people (most of whom accept Evolution). It was the fact that my teacher went to the BBC and lobbying for Intelligent Design that sparked this post.

Now to the point of this post, should Intelligent Design be taught in schools? Is there any educational value?

The answer is no.

Firstly, Intelligent design is all based on faith while Evolution is based on something more substantial (e.g. DNA, Natural selection etc.). Most people (even the religious) accept Evolution and there is overwhelming evidence for it.

As The Now Show put it, any students fortunate enough to get Intelligent Design for A-level would get remarkable results:


Q. What happened during the Big Bang?
A. Something we do not understand caused by a thing we don't know.

Q. How did organic molecules develop the ability to self-replicate?
A. By some unknown force doing a thing we cannot understand.

Q. Explain the mechanisms by which species develop through random
mutation?
A. By the interference by some intelligent thing that is more complex than anything we know and yet, can never know.


As you see, if Intelligent design were put in place we wouldn't learn anything. Teaching Intelligent Design is such a waste of time and would just contribute to science in this country going backwards.

Secondly, there are a lot of clever, but impressionable, young people in my school. The influence my chemistry teacher has over them is massive. He has converted a fair few to Intelligent Design and they are not even religious. How can you believe in it if you don't believe in a creator? Most people don't understand and those that "teach" it are highly persuasive.

So to conclude, Intelligent design contributes nothing to education and it doesn't even count as a science, it's not in the curriculum for a reason. If we bow down to these evangelical lobbyists we'd become more and more like America. Does anyone want that?

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

but shouldn't people be told both sides of the argument. Evolution is just a theory.

Miao 妙 said...

Well, perhaps in future you should type a draft on MS Word first. Even if your computer screws up and suddenly shuts down, at least MS Word can still recover the unsaved document.

Anyway, Discover magazine recently published a scientific finding which suggests that light began to exist even before stars were formed. In response to the article a reader wrote in and said something along of the lines of how glad she is that "science is finally catching up with the Bible" because in the Genesis it is also mentioned that light came into existence before stars were created.

It is interesting seeing how religious people try to justify their beliefs with science, with reason, as if the happenings in the real world are fulfilling their religious prophecies (and thus proving the significance and superiority of their religions), when their faith is not a result of logic in the first place, and thus it is impossible to argue in favor of it using reason or science.

DeBunkem said...

Hi Jingo,
I am not sure that this person should be peddling these ideas in a school environment, especially in a Science lesson (it might be appropriate to discuss this within Religious Education however). Any institution which wishes to retain its academic credibility should work within rigorous intellectual frameworks, not magic (remember Eddie Izzard's set during 'The Secret Policeman's Ball'). I am surprised that learners and parents have not formally challenged this practice. I would!

Yes, Evolution is a theory. Creationism, on the other hand, is based on adherance to faith. The followers (and I use that word advisedly) of this theology do not believe it to be simply a theory. These Fundamentalists are adamant that it is THE truth, and are totally intolerant of scientific discourses which do not fit their pre-conceived notions. Theirs is what is known as a teleological discourse. It marshalls the 'facts' in the direction of a pre-determined conclusion (ie, that everything is God's work).

Good for you for challenging these people.
~ DeBunkem

Jingo said...

Hi Miao,

I watched some show on Channel 4 about the Bible code. Basically it predicted every major event in the last 100 years (JFK assination, 9/11 etc.) by finding patterns in the Bible.

It just shows if you look hard enough you can find evidence for anything, even the most ridiculous ideas.

Jingo said...

Hi DeBunkem,

Most people thinks he's a nutcase anyway. But he holds massive influence so it's impossible to win an argument with him on the subject.

Is it me or are all these pro-Intelligent Design nutcases found in America?

DeBunkem said...

Hi J.,
Yes, America is the spiritual homeland for this movement. It is part of the organised Fundamentalist lobby aimed at helping to transform their society into a theocratic state. I have discoursed with some of them on Blogstream, and it's like talking to daleks. They keep bombarding you with cut-and-paste passages of prepared arguments from their venal Right Wing websites.

I know that this is aside from the Creationism debate per se, but my sense of these individuals is that they love control, and that they lack genuine faith. If they truely believed - say, in intelligent design - then they'd stop speaking for their God, and trust Him his Will to be made manifest without the assistance of their trumpet mouths. I have to say that I got thoroughly bored with them, and so have nothing to do with them anymore.

We don't need them here. We've got quite enough problems of our own, eh!
~ DeBunkem

Jingo said...

It's not like Evolution is going directly against the Bible. I don't understand why people believe that God might not have the time to design everything (and there's a lot of design) and he simply used evolution as his tool.

Oh and I must recommend ShellytheRepublican.com - it's an excellent example of a right wing religious nutjob.

Miao 妙 said...

The Saw movies are among my favorites too, and well, you're right that technically Jigsaw isn't committing murder, but indirectly, in a way, he is.

I heard Saw 4 will be coming out next Halloween. I have a feeling that Saw 4 may be a prelude since now both Jigsaw and Amanda are both dead.

Anonymous said...

There cannot be the God portrayed by Bible or Koran. He created everything? But who or what created this God? Where and when this dude was created before that initial moment where and when there was nothing --- no space and no time.

Jingo said...

Hey miao,

Thanks for the little spoiler there ;) I hope it isn't a prelude, surely some copycat killer will take their place?

Jingo said...

Hey anon,

I read something by Michio Kaku that claimed Universes gave birth to Universes... So maybe there was something before our universe came into existence.

But that begs the question, when did the firt Universe get created?

Anonymous said...

here in America it's quite the controversy as well.

i do think it would be fine to teach it in the appropriate context, say in religion class where such ideas are typically bandied about. it should never, however, be taught in science class or advanced by any academic institution (other than purely religious ones meant to further religious views or their own religious movements) as scientific truth.

i happen to believe in God, so i do see his presence in the universe and yes, even in science (perhaps particularly in science). to me the two are not mutually exclusive, but also, this view of mine is wholly subjective and i know that. my ideas about the universe do not equate to a valid science nor should it ever be taught as such---same with I.D. faith is subjective, and what is known to be subjective shouldn't be taught as fact unless there is no other factual reason or conclusion, and then it should only be posited as theory.

having said that, i think your statement about the bible is erroneous for the most part. the bible of course was not "created" by the Vatican---which was not even an entity when the books themselves were written---but it certainly was edited and contextualized by the orthodox of the age after the fact.

Jingo said...

I believe in God... to the extent that he is an idea that makes the world a better place. I do not believe him as some kind of entity that looks down upon us in Heaven.

And the bible was created by the vatican to an extent. After all, it was they who decided whether Jesus should be portrayed as divine or man.

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